Hi,

Visiting burger stalls is a norm anyway with the same type of taste, onion tomato, some place pineapples, mayo, tons of chillies n tomatoes sauce.

Do you think we can have a burger stall that sells burger with drink n french fries???? That would a new one.

If u like burger would u buy??

Talking about burger, last 2 year I watched Oprah and it is about 10 best burger restaurant in US. It really whet my appetite and during that time I'm pregnant too, so I really really want to eat premium burger and don't know if there's such thing in Malaysia especially johor. Since the show did give a look at the restaurant kitchen, they show how to make those burgers too. So the only thing I can think I can do is cook the burger myself. If only I've join the friedchillies that time, I'd probably ask my hubby to bring me to TGI.... much easier and better taste I guess.

Talk abt TV influence!!!! Hahaha.....

I guess being pregnant cravings can also test your mind.....

I was just wondering abt the burger thing n guess what when i was drinking around last night in dsara i found one that actually gives u a set. i mean this is the street burger u find everywhere, they pack for u burger, fries n drink. i mean is like going to mcd except this is not mcd this is street burger.

after my burger....

I remember that just over 10 years ago Oprah said she wouldnt eat another burger (this was during the BSE scare). The meat industry even took her to court over it. Oh well, glad to see the brugers have come home.

Where exactly in Damansara is this burger stall, happylyn? Were the fries good?

I would really love someone to sell ostrich burgers, vege burgers that taste like meat and maybe kambing boar burgers (homemade patty and such).

I know all about the ramli craze and all that, been there done that. But seriously, eating meat is a health undertaking. I wish we had more healthier options but with a local touch.

Condiments - hmmm fried garlic and red onions, pickles, cheese, mayo, coleslaw, and chilli sauce of course.

sides - crisps, soft french fries you know the one that you bite and its crinkly but solid and soft. I love those... unlike the thin and rectangular french fries you get today.

milkshake. honest to goodness variety.

relish at changkat bkt bintang and daily grinds at bangsar village serves gourmet burgers

Its a branch. I have to say that the one time I went to the relish in changkat bkt bintang, I thought the service was slow, the burger was dry and the fries were greasy and soggy.

umm...i might go to have it a try then...

Relish is overrated.

Then again, I hate open burgers... not the same feel and if trying to close it and eat... messy and clumsy

Carls jr is about good enough.



What I really want to see in Malaysia is good hot dog stalls or places (not 1901).

The burgers at the Daily Grind in Bangsar Village are good if a little pricey. You maywant to pack your own heinz ketchup bottle too as the home made stuff they serve lacks a certain punch.

hi everybody! have you tried Splash at the Westin? they have a great variety of burgers and sausages with yummy condiments, like caramelised onions and sauteed mushrooms. It's never crowded and quite nice by the pool. With my starwood card, it's a really good deal when dining with another friend.

i also like the etoile burger at etoilet, equatorial. the bun is in the shape of a star, named after the cafe. the meat is juicy, succulent and delicioussssssss.

but being malaysian, on a hungry late night, i'd probably give in to my local ramly burger stall. It is trusty, consistent and certainly hits the spot.

Whenever I dunno what to order from the western menu burger would be my 1st choice, its also the safest dish to order when try out new cafe:)

Yesterday just went to Marmalade at Bangsar Village and tried the beef burger with mushroom. Burger size is moderate and comes with fries and greens and served in a cute plastic basket, the patty is nicely grilled but the sides are not generous enough.

Others depand on the price range:

Cheapest- Definitely our made in Malaysia Ramly burger,love the one at Subang SS15, further down from Asia Cafe. Couldn't remember the name but hard to miss it as it always crowded. They provide extensive menu and if not mistaken they do sell fries and even fish ball! But no drinks. Try their shrimp burger for a change.
I always like egg to go with Ramly burger, and lots of mayo, vege but no pineapple.

Average- Fast food chain will fall in this category, personally love Wendy's double deck beef burger. Juicy and cheesy, really satisfied! Really worth the price paying. Glad they are back!
(If u happen to be in Singapore, try McD's breakfast burger, choose the most expensive one around SGD7)

Moderate to higher range- Mainly cafes like Delicious, Marmalade and Alexis. Chili's served generous portion with very nice fries, always go there for their mushroom swiss burger, but remember to ask them not overcook the patty.

Expensive- Never try much, any more suggestion besides Westin?

Overall i think my ultimate burger is something come with thick patty grill to perfection, egg, lots of cheese and vege(include caramelised onions) and generous sauce(no tomato or chilli sauce pls).

Hey all! I know big ass burgers, in fancy-schmancy restaurants is a fad nowadays, I think the best burger is the humble 'Ramly' burger stall we see in front of 7-11s in the country.

Malaysia Boleh! to Ramly Burger Stalls!

Ramly burger and alike are not 100% minced/ground beef.

Nuts ’bout Food - 11 January 2009 12:34 AM

Hey all! I know big ass burgers, in fancy-schmancy restaurants is a fad nowadays, I think the best burger is the humble 'Ramly' burger stall we see in front of 7-11s in the country.

Malaysia Boleh! to Ramly Burger Stalls!

Actually Ramly Burger has hit mainstream New York. A restaurant in NY is serving a snack bar burger called Romli inspired by the street burger stands in KL. But iceman is right. Ramly's is not 100% ground beef.

But I guess it depends on what is your preference is as pointed out by Jeane.

Ramly Burger is still the bomb

Understand this is a Malaysian restaurant, known more for its roof top bar than food. Don’t think the Ramly inspired burger has created a trend, become mainstream in NYC or long queue at 230 fifth.

Adly - 11 January 2009 07:40 PM

Actually Ramly Burger has hit mainstream New York. A restaurant in NY is serving a snack bar burger called Romli inspired by the street burger stands in KL.

230 Fifth is an American Roof top bar owned by an American dude. They serve Malaysian inspired bar snacks such as Jalan Alor Chicken Wings, Lontong and Romli Sliders in bite sizes. We filmed them in late October last year for our channel Worlds Best Malaysian Restaurant due out soon.

The recipe comes from an American Chef who loves Malaysian food and went back to US to open a restaurant called Fatty Crab. 230 Fifth pinjam him to create the line of bar snacks.

That's pretty dope.. Malaysian food in NY. Penang also made it onto TIME's list of top 44 places to visit because of its food (it's number 22).

My favorite burger still is and probably will always be Ramly daging special extra mayo no chilli sauce mmmm. I'm not a big fan of this Otai that popped up. The ultimate sinfest is the beef and chicken special combo - a beef patty and chicken patty each wrapped in 1 fried egg. Reserved only for one of those days..

Yes, I know it's not 100% minced beef, but just like you know mamaks/roadsides aren't clean, they still serve the best food in Malaysia.

Well that depends on how you look at it igotthis. From what I see, someone (not malaysian) liked the Malaysian version of burgers so much that they are inspired to give something that is ultimately American a Malaysian name. That almost never happens. Its usually the other way round. I am also pretty happy that Penang made it to TIMES top 44 list! The Malaysian street food cuisine seems to have gained alot of coverage as of late. Well done Penang!

Street food in Malaysia is abundant, tasty, popular and affordable, and reflects contemporary history and culture.

Chef is a professions, it takes years of training to become one. A good dish need fine ingredients, talent, technique, time, control and passion to produce.

To claim Ramly burger is the best food in the country is an insult to the chef profession and degrading Malaysian culture.

igotthis - 30 January 2009 02:35 PM

Yes, I know it's not 100% minced beef, but just like you know mamaks/roadsides aren't clean, they still serve the best food in Malaysia.

I think you've quite missed my point. I didn't quite say that Ramly is the best food in the country. I said that personally, I like Ramly burger, regardless of the poor quality of the ingredients of which I'm fully aware and sometimes it just irritates me when elitists say things like 'How can you eat that? It's not real meat, you know'. I really am fully aware that I'm not eating 100% minced beef, but I like it and I'm going to eat it. That was my point.

I enjoy fine food just like most everyone here seems to, but I also like my fast food like Ramly, McDonald's and etc. Again, I didn't say that Ramly is the best food in the country, but that most of the time, the best Malaysian food are found in roadside stalls. Personally, I can't think of any good char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai that I would recommend that isn't at a mamak.

Malaysian food has evolved to become what it is because of our history of being farmers, fishermen, and generally not privy to the finer things that the British had when they came. Nasi kandar, for example, originates from the practice of hawkers selling nasi campur in containers balanced (kandar) on their backs. Many of our famous foods were made from all kinds of parts of the animals to make full use of the animals that we slaughtered so that we don't waste anything, e.g. brains, stomach, tongue.

I do still think that Malaysia has a good selection of fine dining. Personally (and I cannot emphasis personally much more), it's my personal opinion (Noun (s) a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty (Source: Princeton)), that Malaysia's everyday-dining Italian food is better than the likes of Melbourne and Perth. It's much easier to find good affordable pasta here than over there. Also, we have some great Japanese and nice Chinese restaurants that are much more affordable and just as good.

iceman - 31 January 2009 10:35 AM

Street food in Malaysia is abundant, tasty, popular and affordable, and reflects contemporary history and culture.

Chef is a professions, it takes years of training to become one. A good dish need fine ingredients, talent, technique, time, control and passion to produce.

To claim Ramly burger is the best food in the country is an insult to the chef profession and degrading Malaysian culture.

igotthis - 30 January 2009 02:35 PM

Yes, I know it's not 100% minced beef, but just like you know mamaks/roadsides aren't clean, they still serve the best food in Malaysia.

Iceman, it's really sad that you don't understand the topic of this forum; "Burger U like". All our opinions are personal. We don't degrade chefs, or other people's opinions as you are doing.
You may want to sound like you know everything, so be it. If we like Ramly Burger, so be it.
Please, let's keep this forum diplomatic, not some argument about whether a burger is the real deal or not. It's all personal preference.

Iceman, it's really sad that you don't understand the topic of this forum, ie. "Suggestions Please!! What Type of Burgers U'll like".
All our opinions are personal. We don't degrade chefs, or other people's opinions as you are doing.
You may want to sound like you know everything, so be it. If we like Ramly Burger, so be it.
Please, let's keep this forum diplomatic, not some argument about whether a burger is the real deal or not. It's all personal preference.

If quality of ingredients is not a consideration of a good food, wonder what is? Btw, most meat extender used in those non full meat patties is not dissimilar to those in pet food and animal feed.

Basic ingredients of authentic Italian cooking are olive oil, wine, herbs, pork, etc. If one still finds Malaysia's everyday-dining Italian food is better than the likes of Melbourne and Perth, I am speechless but everyone is entitled to his opinion.

Ah, and yet in Melbourne and Perth you get some pretty crappy basic pastas that they charge about AUD20ish for (2007 prices, mind you). Over here I get some pretty decent pastas for RM20ish. Recently tried Nero Fico, by the Nero group of restaurants in Jln Dungun. Pretty dope. Try the Spaghetti al Nero - nice squid ink spaghetti with tomato based sauce.

But I digress - back to the topic on hand. Malaysian food evolved based on a poor quality of ingredients because back in the day, we just weren't able to afford good cuts of meat, or even good parts of the cow or chicken. Think about it. Brains, stomach, tongue, satay, etc. Likewise, the cuisine of Europe/Italy/America evolved the same way. Pizza was a peasant's food, where they made the best of what they had - some bits of meat and bread, just like our nasi goreng. Sausage was made from all the leftover parts of the cow/sheep/whatever so it wouldn't go to waste.

I think that's pretty much why the best Malaysian food is found in roadside stalls where the hygiene is questionable, and yes, the quality of ingredients isn't always there. But it's a representation of Malaysian food nonetheless.

I have all the respect in the world for chefs, because I can't do what they seem to do so easily - mix flavors. I love quality ingredients - I make my carbonara with some nice pecorino and chanterelles (dried, because that's the only way you find them here). But I still like my not-100%-ground-beef Ramly burger, my satay made from the leftover parts of the cow, my nasi lemak from that stall next to that drain. It's called having a varied palate. You should try it sometime. You might find some pretty tasty stuff.

iceman - 15 February 2009 03:58 PM

If quality of ingredients is not a consideration of a good food, wonder what is? Btw, most meat extender used in those non full meat patties is not dissimilar to those in pet food and animal feed.

Basic ingredients of authentic Italian cooking are olive oil, wine, herbs, pork, etc. If one still finds Malaysia's everyday-dining Italian food is better than the likes of Melbourne and Perth, I am speechless but everyone is entitled to his opinion.

iceman, ramli burgers are an authentic and original expression of street food in Malaysia. While I personally think that there was a time when those stall owners put much more care and effort into their mise en place and the resulting fare, I feel the same way about most hawker fare these days. Debating the quality of the ingredients used in a ramli pattie is as pointless as debating the quality of ingredients found in a can of China's Ma Ling luncheon meat. It is what it is and you either you like it or you dont. If someone expresses a preference for this particularly local brand of roadkil-..er...uhm- street food, I cant imagine any local chef or cook taking offence over such a non-issue.

igotthis, as far as I know, Otai stalls use Ramli burger patties so its more a matter of cooking technique. Which particular ramli stall do you go to for your ramli burger fix? Btw, I was with you until it came to your assertions about italian food which are, in my humble personal opinion and with all due respect, utterly gobsmackingly incredible. Furthermore, your assertion that "Personally, I can't think of any good char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai that I would recommend that isn't at a mamak." will be the subject of an undisclosed number of police reports and protest demonstrations. ;p

If an Englishman was fed with boiled cabbage when he was young, he will has craving and find satisfaction in boiled cabbage from time to time. Can he claim boiled cabbage is the best vegetable in England?

I read in the Star today about Relish reopening at Zouk. Heres the news clip:

http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?file=/2009/2/21/lifeliving/3235454&sec=lifeliving

Has anyone here tried it out yet?

iceman - 17 February 2009 03:50 AM

If an Englishman was fed with boiled cabbage when he was young, he will has craving and find satisfaction in boiled cabbage from time to time. Can he claim boiled cabbage is the best vegetable in England?

Dear Iceman,

I think this will be my last try to get you to understand that I didn't mean to say that Ramly burger was the best food in Malaysia. What I meant to say was the following:
1) Even though Ramly burger is not made from 100% beef patty (as you pointed out, low quality ingredients), I still like it as a burger.
2) The best Malaysian food is (of course, arguably) found in roadside stalls where the quality of their food and hygiene are questionable. To illustrate, for example, if someone were to ask me where to get good nasi lemak, my top 3 recommendations would not be a proper restaurant.

I appreciate good quality ingredients in my meals, but in this case, I still like Ramly.

Also, I'm a bit put off by your insinuation that I was fed solely on boiled cabbage. I've had burgers from Daily Grind (which is good every once in a while but not too often because it feels a bit rich), France, London, America and China just off the top of my head. (I've also had other foods from there too but since we're on the topic of burgers..). And what I meant when I apparently insulted you was that I have a PERSONAL PREFERENCE for Ramly burger.

Chill out man.. don't have a cow and accept that it was an opinion (for a definition of opinion, please refer to my previous post) that was apparently different from yours. I don't hold it against you.. don't hold it against me. Why can't we just get along? Where's the love? Love makes the world go round. Come together. Lucy in the sky with diamonds and etc.

Also, I meant to say that Italian food evolved from everyday food of everyday people in their local versions of our mamaks: cafes and stuff. I love Italian food. That was all meant to backup my argument that Malaysian fare is a reflection of Malaysian history, people and culture, not say that Italian food is crappy. Obviously I failed.

And why would "Personally, I can't think of any good char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai that I would recommend that isn't at a mamak" be the cause of police reports / demonstrations? I thought everyone goes to mamaks for their char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai.

My Ramly fix is from TTDI near Jasima because it's nearby. If I'm adventurous I make the trip to Ampang. The Otai I had was from Plaza Damansara, which had all kinds of bits in it. Was weird..

Otai burgers stalls can vary in quality. The ones Ive had in Hartamas so far have been fine. Will look out for the TTDI one if Im in the neighbourhood.

igotthis - 24 February 2009 04:18 PM

My Ramly fix is from TTDI near Jasima because it's nearby. If I'm adventurous I make the trip to Ampang. The Otai I had was from Plaza Damansara, which had all kinds of bits in it. Was weird..

Please do a search of this website and forum to see where most people go for good char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai. You may be in for quite a surprise. I just posted fairly recently on the nasi lemak thread so it should be easy to find. Even when it comes to roti chanai, certain indian stalls and restaurants are rated over most mamaks. As for you not being able to think of a good char kuay teow / hokkien mee that isnt at the mamak, please go out with some chinese makankakis and let them show you what youve been missing.

igotthis - 24 February 2009 04:18 PM

And why would "Personally, I can't think of any good char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai that I would recommend that isn't at a mamak" be the cause of police reports / demonstrations? I thought everyone goes to mamaks for their char kuay teow / hokkien mee / nasi lemak / roti canai.

This is a food forum. We're giving our opinions. Iceman, you're really ticking a lot of people off with your fancy-schmancy opinions. If you think you're too good for laymen like us, by all means, pls join another forum.

Best premium burgers I've tried (in order of preference):

1. William's near old Lim Kok Wing Kelana Jaya (try the beef pastrami burger or mozerella beef burger)
2. Tony Roma's Sunway Pyramid (somehow the branch at the Curve is sub-par, went there twice, both fail)
3. Zuup at One Utama

I don't really eat roadside burgers much.

Williams not roadside mah? Didn't know they have burgers. Must go try man!

"Technically" it's at the roadside, but the burgers there are definitely not roadside style.

First time I went there, I thought I wanted to have something light. So I asked for a burger. The guy suggested mozerella beef burger. Thinking it's one tiny little Ramly burger, I said I want fries with it. When the thing came I was surprised to see a REAL beef patty (huge thing!), dribbling with cheese everywhere. Needless to say I was full, very satisfied with the quality, and promised myself I'll only come again if I was very hungry.

It's not your favorite Om Burger but if you like a real premium burger, well, you try lah then you let me know what you think. Gotta see what our taikor says! Jom la tonight.

There's a roadside burger with homemade patty if you wanna try it out. You can find his truck along the kelana jaya old Giant's road. Near the police apartments. If he's not there, then try outside Glomac Business Center.

Again food is based on your personal preference... you guys watch Asian Street Cafe? Who's that chef again??? Can't remember his name... anyway he goes around asia pretending that he's good at cooking all the traditional stuff you get from each country. He comes to Malaysia and spits our durian out.

What gives? Durian should not be treated that way unless its rotten!

bobby chinn ka??? ohhh pls dun mention his name! his production co got in touched wid me asking me to bring them around melaka for filming and do a bit of cooking, since i'm not familiar wid melaka so i intro lanatir to them la. then said next week wanna meet up wid us for further discussion. blardy hell dat was the last we heard from the guy!

^^ Oh god, that was a close thing! I cant stand the sight of that git. When someone half asian can make a French chef (no prizes for guessing which one I have in mind) sound humble and respectful of Malaysian cuisine by comparison, you know something has gone horribly wrong. Even Keith Floyd wasnt as bad.

Wah TehBeng, how come I never knew? I live not far and work RIGHT THERE!

I think I saw the guy's van sign, but not open in afternoons so I never tried. I will try and rate it soon I guess. I'm a huge fan of good burgers.

TehBeng - 14 April 2009 11:35 PM

There's a roadside burger with homemade patty if you wanna try it out. You can find his truck along the kelana jaya old Giant's road. Near the police apartments. If he's not there, then try outside Glomac Business Center.

Again food is based on your personal preference... you guys watch Asian Street Cafe? Who's that chef again??? Can't remember his name... anyway he goes around asia pretending that he's good at cooking all the traditional stuff you get from each country. He comes to Malaysia and spits our durian out.

What gives? Durian should not be treated that way unless its rotten!

If the host, Bobby Chinn is replaced by Anthony Bourdain or Keith Floyd, fairly certain the comments will be different.

Only accepting criticism or jokes from farang is inferior by culture and living in a uncompetitive, complacent or ignorant society.